"Cultus" can mean veneration, ala the SVS translation of St. John Chrysostom's "The Cult of the Saints."
Your geocentricism observation is a good point, although when you mention the Scriptures the point becomes weaker, since the Scriptures don't address this point at all but does speak of the Sun as we would expect it to-- from our perspective. We even speak of the sun rising and setting, and it is "true" insomuch as it describes our experience of the sun's action upon the earth.
I think you should read Fr. Seraphim's Genesis, Creation, and Early Man. Are you familiar with any of the creationist literature or arguments? Philip Johnson, William Dembski, Michael Behe, for example? I think you'll find their critique of the philosophical naturalism posing as science to have some really good points. I think that's why anyone familiar with the literature and the real arguments will find your stuff on this to fall flat (not to toot my own horn, but my law review paper was on that federal district case in PA regarding the mere mention of an ID-theory book in the school's library, and it gave me an acquaintance with the thinkers on the creationism/ID side).
Did the video need to be nine minutes to say that the Fathers aren't infallible and that Fr. Seraphim, despite his sanctity, you believe to be incorrect in his understanding of Genesis? I thought you were going to get to some of the background stuff, like why you believed that Fr. Seraphim's arguments in particular are wrong. If you really want to flesh this out I'll tell you this-- beware the sound of one hand clapping. Don't just assume there aren't good arguments on the other side. If you want to distinguish yourself then honestly attempt to understand and engage the opposing viewpoint. Someone once told me to prefer engagement to polemic.
Just stopping by to say hi David. The site is entertaining and informative as always. Please come and stop by my blog http://hairshirtagenda.blogspot.com
When I first started the Journey to Orthodoxy I encountered an issue with certain saints saying things that are not correct. I asked my priest and he gave me a good perspective, and confirms what you are saying. We must understand that the men are entitled to their own interpretations of scripture and life, but what the church has made into dogma is set in stone, and those things which are not have room for disagreement. Evolution being one of them.
"Cultus" can mean veneration, ala the SVS translation of St. John Chrysostom's "The Cult of the Saints."
ReplyDeleteYour geocentricism observation is a good point, although when you mention the Scriptures the point becomes weaker, since the Scriptures don't address this point at all but does speak of the Sun as we would expect it to-- from our perspective. We even speak of the sun rising and setting, and it is "true" insomuch as it describes our experience of the sun's action upon the earth.
I think you should read Fr. Seraphim's Genesis, Creation, and Early Man. Are you familiar with any of the creationist literature or arguments? Philip Johnson, William Dembski, Michael Behe, for example? I think you'll find their critique of the philosophical naturalism posing as science to have some really good points. I think that's why anyone familiar with the literature and the real arguments will find your stuff on this to fall flat (not to toot my own horn, but my law review paper was on that federal district case in PA regarding the mere mention of an ID-theory book in the school's library, and it gave me an acquaintance with the thinkers on the creationism/ID side).
Did the video need to be nine minutes to say that the Fathers aren't infallible and that Fr. Seraphim, despite his sanctity, you believe to be incorrect in his understanding of Genesis? I thought you were going to get to some of the background stuff, like why you believed that Fr. Seraphim's arguments in particular are wrong. If you really want to flesh this out I'll tell you this-- beware the sound of one hand clapping. Don't just assume there aren't good arguments on the other side. If you want to distinguish yourself then honestly attempt to understand and engage the opposing viewpoint. Someone once told me to prefer engagement to polemic.
Just stopping by to say hi David. The site is entertaining and informative as always. Please come and stop by my blog http://hairshirtagenda.blogspot.com
ReplyDeleteWhen I first started the Journey to Orthodoxy I encountered an issue with certain saints saying things that are not correct. I asked my priest and he gave me a good perspective, and confirms what you are saying. We must understand that the men are entitled to their own interpretations of scripture and life, but what the church has made into dogma is set in stone, and those things which are not have room for disagreement. Evolution being one of them.
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